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Offline Hot Rod

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A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« on: December 26, 2011, 10:10:06 am »
What do you think of a Mossberg for home defense? What would you buy? I'm not trying to spend $2K though.
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 10:27:03 am »
HEY, VIC.

I KEEP TWO MOSSBERG 500'S LOADED AT ALL TIMES.   ONE IN THE CORNER OF THE MASTER BEDROOM THE OTHER IN A CONCEALED - BUT READILY AVAILABLE LOCATION ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

I HAVE HAD SEVERAL MOSSBERGS 500 SERIES OVER THE YEARS AND NEVER HAD A SINGLE PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THEM.  SIMPLE, RELIABLE, EFFECTIVE AND NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE.

A NICE SIDE BENEFIT IS THE "SOUND EFFECTS".   ON A DARK NIGHT WHEN YOU "RACK-A-ROUND" INTO THE CHAMBER IT HAS A SOUND AS DISTINCTIVE AS A HARLEY HOG.   VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED  TO CREATE A SPONTANEOUS BOWEL MOVEMENT FOR ANY ONE DOWN STAIRS THAT DOESN'T BELONG THERE.    THIS SAVES A LOT OF MESS CLEANING AS WELL AS A BUNCH OF PAPERWORK.   IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DID PULL THE TRIGGER YOUR HOME OWNERS INSURANCE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF CLEANING UP THE MESS.   HOWEVER - THERE IS STILL THE MATTER OF ALL THE DAMN PAPER WORK.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE MOSSBBERG 500 SERIES.   YOU CAN PAY A WHOLE LOT MORE FOR A BENELLI OR OTHER "REALLY PRETTY" SHOTGUN - - BUT FOR RELIABILITY YOU CAN'T BEAT THE MOSSBERG.

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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 10:47:17 am »
I agree with Jack on the sound effect of a pump providing additional advantage in personal protection. Remember in Maryland you are not allowed to protect your home and property. 

I had a friend that I hunted with the lower end Mossberg -not sure of the model number. He was happy with the gun and it never let him down, no jams, no issues at all over the years. Be sure the other members the family are comfortable handling and shooting what you choose. Wendy has a light 20ga that she is very comfortable with - she doesn't like my 12ga.


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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 10:49:57 am »
I have a Remington 870 Express 3" Mag Deer Rifle.  18" barrel, rifled for slugs too.  Damn accurate and not expensive at all.  In fact, if you live in Va., I can hook you up with a dealer friend of mine...Great discounts, and he sells excellent used guns on consignment too....
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 11:15:57 am »
I also have a 500, and Jack hit the nail on the head, just the sound of the rack will clear the house.
Don’t forget the key ingredient  “00 BUCK” shells.

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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 11:47:27 am »
Thanks all. That's what I was thinking and found in my other research. I was thinking of a 500 too. Corky, I found several A+ dealers on line, but if you have a friend, I would like to stay local for my purchase. Lets talk at the New Years Day cruise.
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 12:15:54 pm »

Mossberg is a great gun. I had the stainless one on board my boat whenever we went offshore. I now own several Remington 870's. Standard equipment for police departments. The one I sleep with is a "tactical" version that holds 7 rounds. Do not go around in public with that version as you are only allowed 4 rounds in the gun.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-870/model-870-express-synthetic-7-round.aspx

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=3&display=specs

I would go with the shortest barrel for in home use. It looks like Remington has the shortest one.
I prefer #7 shot for home protection over 00 buckshot as over penetration is a real issue.

Nothing beats the sound of a pump shotgun racking a round except..............the sound of a BIG BLOCK  :knuppel2:
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 12:29:03 pm »
is that like the sound of one hand clapping?

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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 12:49:03 pm »
Vic...think of your image. You need the sawed-off Winchester 1887 with large-lever loop used as used by Arnold Schwarzenegger in The Terminator. That will be perfect to go with your CACC jacket and the jeans with the sequins.
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Seriously Vic...read this: http://www.second-amendment.org/guns-and-shooting/shotguns/870vs500.html
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 12:50:07 pm »
My friendly hippie Takoma Park neighbors might be surprised to learn that I have kept a Mossberg 590 with ghost ring night sights (tritium illuminated), extended mag and ventilated metal handguard as primary home defense weapon for fifteen years.  It has had many hundreds of practice 00 buck and rifled slugs through it over those years, and never once has it faltered.

Besides the benefits mentioned by others more qualified,  another advantage of a 12 gauge pump like the 590 is the variety of loads available for it, depending on what you are trying to accomplish in your close encounter.  From beanbags to flashbangs to door entry rounds to rubber buckshot.  Its all out there.   

But the guy who taught me tactical shotgun (trains MPD) favored 00 buck and for very heavy or longer range work, rifled slugs.  His logic is that, if you are reaching for the Mossberg, its a deadly force situation already, in which you may as well take advantage of the considerable firepower at up to 50 yards a 12 gauge pump offers. 

A shotgun at indoor ranges is not a "death ray" that spreads out so much that skill and practice is optional.  In fact, at the 7-12 yards at which most gunfights take place, the pattern of a load of buck is about the size of a very deadly fist.  The point is that one must practice with the loads you plan to use.  A lot.  Accuracy with slugs at up to 50 yards with the ghost ring sights might surprise the uninitiated.  I used to be able to get all of them in a dinner plate at that distance when trained up.  Plus, they are devastatingly hard hitting. Think Civil War Mini Ball at higher velocity.
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 01:23:24 pm »
I bought a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with 18.5-inch barrel several years ago.  It was pretty cheap.  Short and easy to swing around in close confines. I think it was $350 at the Chantilly gun show, and those prices aren't very good, typically!

I'm unaware of any limitation on the number of rounds one can have in any gun at any time, in public or not, certainly not in VA.  When I bought this gun, it had a wooden dowel in the magazine to limit the number of rounds one could fit.  Maybe there are such limits in other places.
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 03:11:51 pm »
I bought a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with 18.5-inch barrel several years ago.  It was pretty cheap.  Short and easy to swing around in close confines. I think it was $350 at the Chantilly gun show, and those prices aren't very good, typically!

I'm unaware of any limitation on the number of rounds one can have in any gun at any time, in public or not, certainly not in VA.  When I bought this gun, it had a wooden dowel in the magazine to limit the number of rounds one could fit.  Maybe there are such limits in other places.

The ever present dowel is the clue......

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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 03:18:37 pm »
Oh - it's no longer present!!  lol!!

Do you know of any place that restricts the number of rounds in a shotgun (or rifle)?

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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 03:26:00 pm »
For hunting, I think most states do.  For recreational shotgunning (sporting clays, skeet) you can only load two. For other stuff, not that I know of.  My brother has a box magazine fed Russki Saiga autoloading shotgun that holds way more than 7.
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Re: A question for the gun nuts on shotguns?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 03:29:02 pm »
Yeah - I did see limitations on the capacity when hunting. 

During a VERY quick search, I saw a brief reference implying a limit of five shells in a non-hunting shotgun in MD, but couldn't find details.  Maybe we could ask an attorney who lives in Maryland.....
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